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Post by masterdisaster on Oct 30, 2014 9:41:15 GMT
Hey guys I know many of you have dabbled with my beloved Malifaux either in previous editions or even the current rule set but there doesn't seem to be a lot of it going on at the moment. I am keen to spread the Malifaux love and was wondering if anybody would be interested in a club project involving Malifaux and it's new rules set (M2E). A friend of mine in Finland has done this at his local club and it's been going down really well. Here's what I'm proposing if there is enough interest. Maybe looking to start in the new year towards late January or early February. Malifaux Slow Grow League- Each member of the league buys, builds and paints (I'm not going to enforce this one although it will be encouraged!) a Single Starter Box of their choice. You will also need a Fate Deck and the Rules but I'll be happy to buy copies of the rules manuals for people if required.
- Each member ideally should pick a different Master to prevent any mirror matches although I wouldn't enforce this if people had their hearts set on a particular Master. Although 6 people playing Seamus will get boring very quickly!
- Each member can only use the Master and models provided within their Starter Box for the first Month or two (Most are around 25-30 points and are fairly balanced at this level)
- Each month or two the points limit of the games will be increased incrementally (probably 5-10ss per month or whatever people feel is manageable) by adding 1 blister/model/box of models etc allowing you to add more models to your pool. Each game will have fixed limits on points but having more models in your pool will make your crew more flexible when it comes to objectives.
- Each member needs to stay with their Master and chosen model pool for the duration of the league however Dual Faction masters are not limited to a single faction.
- Each league game's objectives/deployment etc will be randomly determined as per the Rule Book to prevent people power listing their way to victory, Malifaux is designed in such a way that you actually build your crew after the objectives have been decided, this prevents power gamers bringing a filthy list and auto-winning. Malifaux is a game specifically aimed at earning VP to win and Killing everything your opponent owns WILL NOT win you the game 9 times out of 10.
- Current M2E rules will be used for the duration of the League, we may even look at having some of the Story Encounter missions being used later in the league.
- The League will last somewhere between 3-6 Months although this can be confirmed as we get closer to the time. This should provide people with plenty of time to buy, build and heaven forbid paint!
- The aim is to end up with each player having a fully painted (optional) full 50ss crew that they can watch grow, have fun playing with and become a Master they will enjoy using for many moons to come whilst also having fun with each other and a fantastically in depth and flavorful game with tonnes of great stories. Wyrd are currently re-releasing the entire line with fanastically detailed new plastics so that is a great time to get into the game.
I'd be looking to get the ball rolling on this in the new year (Maybe late January) if there is enough interest, this also gives me plenty of time to give people demo games or refresher games to get them up to speed with the basics on the game if they want them. Additionally this allows people time to do some research on the game, Masters, Faction fluff, perhaps pick up the rules, first starter box etc. I'll also ask around on the next few club nights to get an idea on interest but if you are keen to give this a try please feel free to post here. Malifaux has fairly cheap start-up costs. For £40-50 You can happily pick up a starter box, fate deck and a rules manual and/or Faction decks (however as stated above I'll be happy to buy and provide people with their own rules manuals if need be)
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Post by Anything Green or Mean! on Nov 2, 2014 14:33:54 GMT
Sounds like a good idea to me, I'm going to start collecting the Gremlins and have an understanding of the rules. Hopefully we can get enough people interested to have a few games every month. Count me in ?
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Post by comstar on Nov 2, 2014 22:57:30 GMT
I've got a few different forces so would like to join in possibly once a month but at the size game your recommending we could get at least two games in
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masterdisaster
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 3, 2014 8:16:53 GMT
Yeah at the starter box level and 30SS level you could probably get two games done in one evening. As we progress and the SS limit rises that will probably change to one game an evening, especially when you get closer to the 50SS point where games have more models and turns take longer. I'll ask around the club this evening to get an idea as to what people think and how many are interested. It'll be great if we can get some fresh blood into the game or even just get people who played before back into it more often.
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Post by Balgin on Nov 3, 2014 9:40:56 GMT
I might be interested. I've got Leveticus, Viktorias and the Showgirls. Given my limited finances I'd recommend increasing the game size every two months rather than one as I'm going to be pretty hard up 'til February.
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masterdisaster
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 3, 2014 12:54:45 GMT
I'd be happy to go for 2 month increments. From Starter Boxes which range from 25-30ss anyway that gives the guys plenty of time to buy, build, paint whatever they like and maybe get a few games in every month to get to grips with the rules then we can look to expand each players pool every two months by 1 additional box/blister of models and increase the SS limit to 35ss. Two months later repeat the process and increase to 40ss so on and so forth until we hit 50ss games which is the normal sized game. Once people have a nice pool of models to draw upon we can start introducing story encounters and the likes. Additionally I understand the costs of jumping into a new gaming system so if you currently own a crew that you really want to use that's also fine, some of them aren't released in starter boxes yet so we will have to decide a fair and balanced crew for the first month so you aren't over/underwhelmed by the other players.
This will mean the league should take place over the vast majority of the year which I realize is a fairly sizable commitment as many people may not want to play every week or month. For the time being though I'm just gauging interest and potential numbers. Obviously I don't want to step on the role players toes so I'll have a chat with some of the guys this evening and see what can be done about this sort of project.
In the event it goes well or people fancy a break from the League I've got a few ideas for additional Malifaux related events such as a 1 night Hardcore Tournament which is not nearly as bad as it sounds! This basically consists of 20ss games. No more or less than 4 models, Henchmen leaders only, No Summoning and preset objectives. This is fast, fun and brutal action but is also really goo fun. You can easily complete a game in around 20-30 minutes and is a great way to cycle through around 4-5 different opponents in one evening.
I can also bust out the University of Transmortis Expansion for some fun with the single player Scenario with a few personal modifications. This particular scenario is also really good fun. Normally designed for single player use but can be adapted. Basically a 25ss crew takes on the University of Transmortis' students who constantly re-spawn each turn. The aim of the game is to get each of your crew to the opposite side of the board alive to score points. The average score is 3VP (1 for each model who escapes) it is also fairly fast paced, fun and of course the Iron Zombies don't hold back so there's plenty of action!
I think a club project like this will be great for us as we can get to know each other better as we play and for many learn a new, fun, unique and fairly cheap gaming system.
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Post by chillatbmth on Nov 3, 2014 16:41:07 GMT
A club project is great
but something for the entire club has always proved a step to far - if you get half a dozen like minded you are doing well.
But this is a system that has never floated my boat -- give me an Ironclad any day of the 19th century [well 1860 to 1865], stick it on the Mississippi or Red or Yazoo rivers and now you're talking my kind of language
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masterdisaster
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 3, 2014 16:46:26 GMT
Hahaha yeah I wasn't expecting to wrangle everybody into the league. I'd be extremely happy if I could get even 6 people to get involved. The more Malifaux love the better as far as I'm concerned!
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Post by simonkretz on Nov 15, 2014 11:23:30 GMT
i'm keen, i have the Ramos, ortegas, and seamus sets... i havent played much so really do need to get to know the rules
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 19, 2014 16:34:01 GMT
i'm keen, i have the Ramos, ortegas, and seamus sets... i havent played much so really do need to get to know the rules That's fine by me, I'm toying with the idea of restricting Ramos in this particular league. His starter crew is over 50ss right off the bat and so becomes incredibly difficult for others to work against. If you want a demo game or refresher course in M2E let me know. I've got a couple of dates in December free and I'm always up for a game. I'll keep the filth the to utmost minimum until your proficient enough to handle my usual shenanigans I'm thinking of starting the League early February, this will give everybody's bank balances time to recover after Christmas and plenty of time to build and heaven forbid paint should they wish. Also the idea of dedicating nights to the league on the first Monday of each month is something I've been thinking about if this is OK with Chaz and the other committee members. This way we can all get together and have a night of it, collect results and form a league table to see how everybody is getting on. Also the First Monday wont clash with the Role Players and every other week people could play different games if they wish or get more Malifaux in for the practice/fun of it or whatever. I'll be dedicating the entirety of January to Malifaux first and foremost for new players and demo games if you want to get in on the league. If you want a Demo Game, refresher course or fancy testing your metal against a fairly seasoned Vet then see my Thread on the Arrange a Game section of the forum or just use this link wessex-wyverns.boards.net/thread/311/wills-games-nov-booking-january?page=1&scrollTo=2356
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Post by chillatbmth on Nov 19, 2014 22:56:38 GMT
Also the idea of dedicating nights to the league on the first Monday of each month is something I've been thinking about if this is OK with Chaz and the other committee members. No problem -- it's not like we need special tables or scenery. It is also easy to remember for those involved - so that they're not double booking themselves with those of us doing other things. This is an independent members lead wargaming club - we are not tied to any of the Mafia out there. If there are two consenting adults then game on.
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Post by Anything Green or Mean! on Nov 20, 2014 17:51:03 GMT
First Monday sounds good to me, getting a bit of practice in and learning the rules. Seems to be something new every time I play but makes it interesting and enjoyable. Have my full gremlins crew ready to rock and roll, will paint them but takes me time as painting 40k at the mo! Looking forward to it
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masterdisaster
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 21, 2014 8:39:41 GMT
Painting wont be compulsory as it is basically deemed heresy at our club however there will be an incentive to have a fully painted crew.
Seeing as there has been a fair bit of interest in this I'm planning on getting the ball rolling towards the early part of September. I'll get round to creating a new thread with the "official" details for the league, game setup, general rules, points system, league table and sign up etc. I just need a little bit of time to work out some of the kinks etc.
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Post by chillatbmth on Nov 21, 2014 9:06:06 GMT
Seeing as there has been a fair bit of interest in this I'm planning on getting the ball rolling towards the early part of September. I'll get round to creating a new thread with the "official" details for the league, game setup, general rules, points system, league table and sign up etc. I just need a little bit of time to work out some of the kinks etc. getting the ball rolling towards the early part of September? did you mean have it finished in September (10 months away)
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Post by Elmo on Nov 21, 2014 10:23:43 GMT
Sounds like a good idea, I've got a few of the 1st ed. starters, including a Lillith crew I've not had a chance to use yet
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 21, 2014 14:36:36 GMT
Seeing as there has been a fair bit of interest in this I'm planning on getting the ball rolling towards the early part of September. I'll get round to creating a new thread with the "official" details for the league, game setup, general rules, points system, league table and sign up etc. I just need a little bit of time to work out some of the kinks etc. getting the ball rolling towards the early part of September? did you mean have it finished in September (10 months away) Oops! No I meant to get the ball rolling towards the early part of December. Dunno where the hell I got September from! I'll make a new sign-up thread next month so get an idea of those who are willing to get involved. @ Elmo: The original Lilith starter is different to what it is now. Previously it held Lilith, 3 Terror Tots and a Mature Nephilim. The new plastic one which is balanced with the new rule set in comparison to the old one contains Lilith, The Cherub, 3 Terror Tots and Barbaros (A Henchman Nephilim). Obviously I wouldn't expect you to replace your current models. The old Mature will serve nicely as a Barbaros proxy so long as he is on the correct size base. All you'd need is a model for the Cherub, the old metal one may be difficult to get your hands on these days.
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Post by simonkretz on Nov 21, 2014 15:47:21 GMT
@ will , did you say the ramos crew is over 50? is that with all the extras taken? It looks about 38 from what i can see. ya will have to get some learning games in Jan!
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 21, 2014 16:27:04 GMT
You may be looking at the old stat cards, as per the current rules Ramos' start box looks like this
Ramos = Free Brass Arachnid = 4 Howard Langston = 11 Joss = 10 6x Arachnids = (6x4) 24 (It's 6 Spiders but can be combined into Swarms of 3 per 40mm @ 8ss each base or Single Arachnids on a 30mm @ 4ss each) 49ss
This is before upgrades. If you build 3 of the Arachnids into a Swarm you can trim 4ss to bring it down to 45ss. Given the league will start at 30ss you will only be able to use one big guy, a small number of arachnids and maybe the Brass Arachnid. It seems kind of harsh to limit a crew box so dramatically however if you want to play Ramos and are happy with only using a few of the models to begin with then I wont stop you.
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Post by simonkretz on Nov 21, 2014 16:30:37 GMT
ahhh i see now... yep i'm happy to limit him... I'm trying Ramos, Electric creation, Killjoy and Arachnids as needed.. That should keep it trimmed enough
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Post by Elmo on Nov 21, 2014 18:31:23 GMT
Should be able to find a cherub proxy easily enough. Looking at the new boxes I have all of the Kirai starter just in metal and need a good excuse to paint them
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Post by piggiemike on Nov 22, 2014 19:27:02 GMT
I would love to join in on this. I only bought a starter box and and extra pack so far anyway though it seems id already be doubling up as i also have Ramos with his MnSU. I expect Keith would also be interested too. Think we were hoping to be at the club on 1st dec for a training game of something. Could be malifaux if i actually stick mine together.
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Post by comstar on Nov 23, 2014 1:33:10 GMT
Get glueing then
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Post by madphil101 on Nov 23, 2014 18:45:18 GMT
Should be able to find a cherub proxy easily enough. Looking at the new boxes I have all of the Kirai starter just in metal and need a good excuse to paint them The kirai starter is nice but you will need the new wave 2 ressers cards. They work differently now and if you get nothing you will want your other free seishins! I can't see that wyrd have the cards on their site but I have the PDF they released as open source. I think I can email it so pm me if you want it. I have them all so if anyone wants them...
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 24, 2014 8:58:09 GMT
@ Elmo: Kirai is great fun to use but you will need the updated cards. If you're in a pinch you can borrow mine. I have all the current official cards for the Wave 2 Ressers, Guild, 10 Thunders, Outcasts and Arcanists and will be picking up the Neverborn in the near future. Be aware, some of the Official printed cards have changed since the very last updated PDF was released after the open Beta. I took part in the Wave 2 and 3 Beta tests really heavily and still have the Wave 2 stuff but there are changes. Beware, Ikiryo has been changed from a 30mm base to a 50mm so bear that in mind before you go painting her up. @ piggiemike: The more the Merrier! In regards to Ramos I think Simonkretz wants to play his Ramos crew. This shouldn't cause a problem however we can't really have everybody playing Ramos so I would encourage a different Master if that is possible, if not then go with whatever. 1st Dec is actually my Birthday! (Huzzaah!!) and I'll be at the club giving Raph a game of Warmahordes if memory serves so if you have any questions or need any help with Malifaux either on the night or later nights feel free to give me a shout. I'll be the beardy chap with the 4 armed elephant things If you want a beginner game I'l be happy to give you a demo. Failing that if you and Keith want a demo game together I will be happy to run a game and teach you both at the same time so you can ask any questions etc. @ madphil101: The plastic Kirai set is due to be released very soon if not already so the cards are available there. Be careful giving out the PDF versions of the cards, even the ones that state they are official and final. The Wyrd guys did some internal playtesting and implimented a few changes before they put the cards out to print so some of them are not currently accurate. I'll no doubt have some spare cards kicking around from my Arsenal decks. Also given the obscene number of plastic crews I own I have duplicates of many cards so I'll be happy to give them to people if they are using an old metal crew For those that might need to borrow some cards at the beginning I have the following in my possession at the moment: Guild Waves 1 & 2 Arcanist Waves 1 & 2 Ressurectionist Waves 1 & 2 Outcasts Waves 1 & 2 Ten Thunders Waves 1 & 2 Neverborn Wave 1 Don't forget the new plastic kits have the relevant crew cards with them however they do not include faction upgrades so Arsenal Decks are usually the better choice if you can get your hands on them. I'll be posting up later today an "official" thread with the rules for the league with all the usual blah dee blah. Just need to make a few tweaks as I spent a few hours at the weekend typing it up after a few beers.... Always a good idea
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Post by masterdisaster on Nov 24, 2014 10:28:53 GMT
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